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    Originally posted by Tartipants

    Hi guys

    Thanks for the input but it doesn’t really answer my questions. Can either of you tell me about the general cost of living? How much would you expect to pay for a weeks supply of groceries? A loaf of bread? A Litre of Diesel? A bunch of bananas?

    Cheers [:D]


    I’m not sure if you’ve visited Cape Verde but certainly in Santa Maria, Sal you can’t just walk into a shop and buy a weeks worth of groceries. Certainly in February when I was last there it was impossible and I never saw a bunch of bananas all week. You can go to the bakery first thing in the morning and buy whatever they have baked that morning very cheaply, probably no more than 25p. You could probably find some eggs being sold loosely in one of the stores and I saw some lettuces in the local garage. Certainly no sign of any fresh meats or selection of cheeses. Packets, tins and jars no problem. Availability is better on Sao Vicente and probably better still on Santiago. I know that Brits who live there look forward to rations being brought in by visiting friends but things are improving for those wishing to self-cater all the time.

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    If you think that’s bad you should hear the price they were allegedly asking for Papayas when we were there in February. Way over a million euros!

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    I think it’s ok to say this because Noscasa are a sponsor on this site. We do all the client liasion on the mortgages. Although it’s early days, so far so good, it’s worth contacting us to discuss, the service isn’t just for people who have bought via Noscasa.

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    Check out the mortgages page on the Noscasa website. It is possible.

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    Funnily enough she was on the same flight as us, with her sister and her girls, when she originally went on holiday in the February. What a pity she didn’t buy then – she could easily have afforded a 3 bed place on PB (like wot we did!)

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    We have done both – last year stayed AI at the Funana this year stayed at the Porto Antigo apartments. Without a doubt self-catering was far more expensive as it actually meant eating out for the vast majority of meals.

    However, s-c is definitely my preferred option and that’s what we will do again whether it’s to our own place (depends if we sell or not) or Porto Antigo again.

    As ever, it will be horses for courses.

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    I have to say I’m confused when you say

    “when you purchase in England you fix your price and pay it for the property unfortunately that is not the case with property abroad”

    It is exactly the same in Cape Verde. You agree the price and pay that price. Unless of course you agreed the price in sterling and are making payments in euros but I can’t believe that would be the case.

    I’m presuming you have also been advised that it isn’t a good idea to secure the property against your UK residence? Not so bad if all you do is the first stage payment or two but you certainly don’t want to release all the equity on your home to pay for a foreign purchase in case it all goes, dare I say it, tits up?!

    Going back to your first post though, yes it is a flipping pain that the euro has got so strong in the last year or so, now what about investing in the US?……..[:o)]

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    Bobby, have to say I’m with you on Sal. I know people say that once other airports open there will be less interest in Sal but I really liked it the twice I’ve visited CV. Only seen Boa Vista through the open door of a plane whilst waiting on the tarmac. It looks beautiful and deserted but that’s not quite enough for me. I also really liked Sao Vicente but for some reason not as much as I thought I would. I felt there was something eerie about Bayas da Gatas but I’m sure that’s only because it was deserted when we were there.

    Which brings me back to Sal. For some winter sun with the family it’s great. The main beach in Santa Maria is fabulous. Great sand, great for paddling, swimming or boogie boarding. The locals are friendly. Great choice of restaurants. Kids love playing pool in the bars. I think everything is overpriced, fingers crossed the price of everything from a coke to the cost of getting there comes down a bit.

    I’m looking forward to exploring the other islands in the years to come.

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    Charlotte, did you proceed with Vila Do Atlantico? Have you been out to see where the site is. I checked it out when we were out there and think it’s in a great position personally. I’m still tempted…

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    Katie S you are one nasty piece of work. I have known Paul Akwei who runs Noscasa for seven years. Thats right, seven years, I knew him before Noscasa meant more than Our House. We go back years and years how dare you bring your accusations onto this forum. I suggest you scurry back into your hole pretty damn quick.

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    We rented two apartments just three weeks ago having found them very easily on the internet. We rented them privately and picked up the keys from Porto Antigo reception and all services were provided by Porto Antigo.

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    I’d go with an open mind. The islands are all very different from each other. Unfortunately, flying from island to island isn’t cheap – for example £160 (that’s pounds not euros) to fly from Sal to Sao Vicente return, that was buying in advance and during half-term week though so you could get cheaper. Once on Sao Vicente you can get a ferry or catamaran to Santo Antao. I think you can get a boat from Sal to Boa Vista.

    Don’t discount Sal totally. It is a great holiday destination for families. Lovely beaches. Pricewise it isn’t cheap – eating out is only slightly cheaper than British prices. You can self-cater but it takes time to source what you need from the various shops.

    I wouldn’t personally recommend staying at the Riu when you visit later this year, I’d go for a hotel in town – get more of a feel for the place. We stayed at the Porto Antigo apartments this time round but a waste of money for you on your own. Ojo d’aqua would be a good bet.

    You ask about Noscasa. That was our whole reason for going there last year on holiday as we know Paul, who runs it. We have bought two off-plans, Paradise Beach and one on Sao Vicente and so far, so good.

    You will hear good and bad about everyone and pros and cons of approaching developers directly. I would rather be belt and braces and use an estate agent and a solicitor.

    Good luck

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    There is a Noscasa Office in Sao Vicente run by Samuel.

    We are probably going to sell prior to completion so haven’t asked about furniture.

    I’ll ask Daniel to send you my email addy and then I can forward you some pics, ditto anyone else who wants some.

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    My contract is 20 pages long (made up of 10 pages in English and the same 10 pages in Portugeuse). We have 3 sets of contracts as ours is a resale. One set is signed by us (and I think the people who sold to us also have a set signed by us), another set by the vendors and the third set by who knows?, maybe the original vendors?!

    Re – uploading my vid to You Tube – you are having a laugh aren’t you? I can barely get it up and running on the telly! Seriously, I will have a look at how to do it but don’t hold your breath!

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    We were out there last week and Paradise Beach is going great guns. We have a 3 bedroomed semi-detached villa and the basic construction is already up. I was on mummy duty but my husband went to vist the development and from the videoing he did the standard of the show villa looks fab – light and airy with big terrace on the first floor. All three bedrooms are doubles. The size of the kitchen is amazing – I know one doesn’t buy a holiday/investment property for the size of the kitchen but, wow all the same!

    He was also very impressed with the amount of land separating the villas from each other – plenty of room for lovely big pools (or a lot of landscaping!).

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